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ZetaTalk: Orientation
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ZetaTalk: Orientation
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ZetaTalk: Orientation
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The Zetas talk about whether Reincarnation exists; what the Key Characteristics of the two spiritual orientation choices are; what some Distinguishing Characteristics are; By What Names these alien group are known; what Spiritual
Evolution is; whether it is myth or truth that Heaven and Hell awaits our decision on spiritual orientation; whether the choice is irrevocable or Switching Sides occurs and how there can be Merging Later; how there will be an Increasing
Dichotomy and Rampant Violence during this Polarization Period, and how the Littleton Massacre and Amish
Massacre and Virginia Tech Massacre and Nebraska Massacre and Star Wars and Genetic Engineering relates to this; how political leanings such as Conservatives show orientation and why Leveling Wars result; how the orientations differ in their Day to Day and in dealing with the Pole Shift and the Aftertime. The Zetas talk about how the Zetas communicating to us here are the Service to Other Zetas; how spiritual orientation works when one is Without a Body;
what the orientation Lessons of 4th Density coming up next are; the differences in a Love Life between the orientations; whether it is all All Work, No Play with the Service-to-Others or are they a Little Bit Selfish; what the differences in the use of Telepathy are between the orientations, and how this affects Keeping Secrets and Telling the
Truth; and how the orientations differ When Under Attack and in the Hands of Man and will differ during the coming
Pole Shift.
The Zetas talk about how we can attend to our Spiritual Health and how one can best develop Spiritual Awareness;
whether the Self Righteous are right and self-help courses such as EST help; how determining our orientation is the lesson of 3rd Density and what factor Survival of the Fittest or the Tribulations or Life Circumstances we bear have on this; whether one can make a Conscious Choice of orientation and what our Self Doubts indicate; what concern for
Animal Rights indicates; whether Original Sin exists and how our track record re Sin affects our spiritual orientation; how aliens of both orientations influenced the words in The Good Book and the Golden Rule should predominate; why the Fatima Secret is still secret and Pope Ratzinger chosen; why it always seems that humans Attempt to Dominate;
whether Aggression is indicative of orientation; whether it helps to Turn the Other Cheek and what advice they have for the Good Samaritan; how to handle the issue of Trust or Divided Loyalties; and explain why there are no Short
Cuts.
The Zetas talk about whether War and Crime are caused by a Few Bad Apples; who benefited from WW II; why there is Sadism; what Nuclear Tests have to do with orientation; whether there are industrial criminals on a Pollution Power
Trip; who is responsible for Mutilations; why the Melchizedek Cult is is not what Melchizedek intended; whether the
Emissaries of Light are either; whether Stonehenge was built and Dragons were brought to Earth in the past by aliens; and whether Antartica houses aliens in the Service-to-Self.
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ZetaTalk: Reincarnation
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ZetaTalk: Reincarnation
Note: written by Jul 15, 1995
Regarding reincarnation. It exists. Through the Rule of Forgetfulness you do not remember your past lives during an
incarnation, unless circumstances cause you to remember. Each life, or incarnation, has a focus, a lesson. You may or
may not succeed in learning this lesson, and in this case this lesson will be before you in future lives. Some entities learn faster than others. Some backslide, and need to repeat prior lessons. Progress in the lessons may be made in
either the Service-to-Self or Service-to-Other path. Some lessons are harder to learn in this orientation or that. Entities sometimes find themselves switching orientations during lessons, but this is rare and usually fleeting.
The Service-to-Self or Service-to-Other orientation involves not just the choice of what one's goals are, it involves
how one relates to others while attempting to reach those goals. For instance, the Service-to-Self oriented entity
desires to surround itself with luxury and other entities under its control. When interfacing with others, it concentrates on effecting domination, whether by fear and intimidation or by bribery. The Service-to-Others oriented entity has
different goals, to assist others with their problems and to work jointly toward mutual goals. When interfacing with
others, it moves toward clarifying the goals of the group, and then volunteering a role in reaching those goals.
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ZetaTalk: Key Characteristics
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ZetaTalk: Key Characteristics
Note: written by Jul 15, 1995
There is a common misunderstanding, that being that Service-to-Others is all bleeding heart concern and the Service-
to-Self is snarling greed. Nothing could be further from the truth. These animals come in various sizes and shapes.
One must look for the key characteristics, in fact, to even identify them. An example, look to ourselves. We are
Service-to-Others Zetas. Do we not defend ourselves? Do we not have particular goals we press? Do we lie down and
let others walk all over us? Yet we are concerned for the general welfare and work hard to improve this for ourselves
as well as others.
Likewise, the Service-to-Self are often misunderstood. As we have mentioned elsewhere, they can be charming and
diplomatic. The key is the goal, not the goal stated, which may be packaged to appeal to those to be duped, but the
actual goal. A reduction in pollution laws, packaged as enabling employers to stay in business, is in fact a power play by those who resent any restrictions on their power. The unemployment rate has nothing to do with this, but is waved
about as a reason. Wives are familiar with the common husband excuse for late hours and avoidance of home chores.
The job requires this, and the wife should bear in mind who is slaving away to bring home the bacon.
In sum, the Service-to-Others individual may be gruff, distracted, disheveled, and inaccessible. But what are they
working toward? How do they react when a truth test comes, where they must be willing to sacrifice themselves for
others? Do they come through? And the Service-to-Self individual may be suave, seemingly generous, even defending
others. But when their welfare is lined up against another, when they must truly share and words are asked to be
replaced by actions, what then?
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ZetaTalk: Distinguishing Characteristics
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ZetaTalk: Distinguishing Characteristics
Note: written May 15, 1996
A great deal of confusion reigns regarding the spiritual orientations, and how to determine whether someone is leaning
in this direction or that. Key characteristics may come into play when the chips are down, but this is seldom the
situation and most of life allows the true orientation to be masked by personality, subterfuge, or such structured
situations that the orientation of the individual does not have an opportunity to express.
Tak
e the example of an office setting, where assignments are meted out to individuals but team work is stressed. To
the manager, the extroverted young man recently hired may seem to be doing more than his share, at least to hear him
talk, as he has many stories detailing how his expertise or enthusiasm for challenge came to the rescue of the group.
But check with the individual members of the team, and one learns that the reverse is true, as he was the one who required rescuing and feigned ignorance until other members of the long-suffering team did his work for him. When
he gets a raise and a nod, the team is puzzled, as it would not occur to them to report him to the manager for taking more than he is giving. They considered him in need of help, a youth in need of guidance, and took him under their
wings. This type of going behind the back and taking credit is a frequent sign that the individual is operating primarily in the Service-to-Self, or is heading in that direction.
Take an example in the military, where soldiers train and then suddenly find themselves on the front lines in a
conflict. During training exercises, the officers in charge can be lead greatly astray by bravado in safe and
controlled exercises. Those individuals who excelled, exhorted their fellows to greater efforts, and who showed
leadership are assumed to do the same in battle. Yet more often than not, it is the quiet soldier who made no
efforts to take the spotlight who must step into the fray and assume the true leadership position. This de facto
leader may find himself put into danger, deliberately, so the leader with the title can take credit afterwards. Dead
men tell no tales, and the record in combat stands at odds with the awards and promotions, so any rumors are
discounted. Placing someone else in danger to retain a title or position is a strong sign of an individual in the
Service-to-Self, and rarely occurs unless the individual has made their orientation decision.
Take the example of a nurse, required by law and the rules of the hospital where she works to maintain life in
her patients regardless of the level of unremitting pain they are experiencing or the pleas they may be laying
before her. She has at risk her job, her status, her ability to support her family financially, and most certainly her
freedom should she be persecuted under the law, but she determines to listen to those pleas. Certain medications that sustain the living dead, the writhing mass of agony that is in a certain death march, are flushed down the
toilet rather than forced into the arm of the patient. Who is to know? Most certainly the patient, who can barely
speak except to whisper pleas, will not complain. This type of risk taking, when there is utterly no benefit to the
self but rather great risk to the self, is a strong sign of an individual in the Service-to-Other.
Take the example of children in a household where the mother is ill, chronically so, and the children expected to
assume her responsibilities. The father works long and hard, and has no patience with chores undone. Some of
the younger children need help with their chores, especially as they fail to watch the clock and can be caught
rushing to do them when father walks in. The oldest is a girl who herself slips her chores to her younger siblings,
leaving them half done so it is not clear who was inattentive. If this girl is to dry and put away the dishes but
another child is to set the table, she places the dried dishes on the table rather than into the cupboard, confusing
the issue. That her little brother gets whipped for pulling too many dishes out of the cupboard bothers her not.
She thinks of hairstyles and makeup and meeting the right boy at the mall. The chips can fall where they may.
This type of lack of concern for others can be attributed to inattention, but where one has seen a sibling whipped
and can anticipate this in the future, it is not inattention but lack of regard, a sure sign of an individual oriented to themselves, in the Service-to-Self.
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ZetaTalk: Distinguishing Characteristics
In this same example, one of the younger children, a boy, does half the chores for two of his siblings. He works
with them, showing them how to do the chores, and in this way not only makes sure the chores are done but are
done to the exacting father's measure. In this he doesn't take credit for the chores, but praises his siblings. He
also gives up after-school games and parties to ensure that his siblings aren't caught with poorly done chores,
knowing the father is awash in fatigue and worry and can take all this out on the household if given half an
excuse. This boy, still only a child himself, is giving evidence of his strong orientation in the Service-to-Others.
The characteristics are not only that he is helping others, but that he seeks to make them strong and self
sufficient and will sacrifice his own pleasure to ensure that others do not suffer.
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ZetaTalk: By What Names
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ZetaTalk: By What Names
Note: written Aug 15, 1995
Humans have a saying - a Rose by any other name would smell as sweet. The aliens visiting Earth have a fragrance
too, in a manner of speaking, which by any name is just as succinct and identifiable. There are Service-to-Self and
Service-to-Other visitors, and these divisions are distinct. This is a name we are insisting on, as whatever else you call us, the term Service-to-Others must be included. The Service-to- Self groups, as you can imagine, prefer that term be
dropped entirely, as it tends to alert those they are trying to recruit. The Service-to-Others have almost invariably
allowed the humans being contacted to name them. Betty and Barney Hill named us, and the name, having been
publicized, stuck. Zeta is your term for the star system we came from. Likewise the Pleiadeans were named for their
home constellation. They have never minded, and the Nordics, named for their appearance, could care less. A problem
exists where the hundreds of aliens that appear to be gray to humans, because the human eye cannot perceive the color
spectrum, are all simply called grays. No one has bothered to name them, or catalog them, and the task will probably
proceed willy-nilly as contactees come forth with sketches and a catchy name sticks.
Aliens in the Service-to-Self orientation are very particular about their names, as they are pompous and concerned
about impressions. The Omnipotent Krlll, for example. They are prone to announce themselves, and insist on
ceremony. Humans confused over names, what to call this group or that are frequently reacting to frauds put forth by
the establishment, who announce the alien group or spirit, by name. Since the Service-to-Other are not particular, and
are concerned with content, not titles, any alien group announcing itself by name should be suspected as either a
Service-to-Self group or more likely a fraud put forth by humans. Where a Service-to-Others alien group or entity has
assigned a name to itself, this has been in response to humans, who have insisted. What's your name? What do you call
yourself? How shall we refer to you?
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ZetaTalk: Spiritual Evolution
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ZetaTalk: Spiritual Evolution
Note: written Jan 15, 1996
The Service-to-Self orientation is not so much a choice as a failure to progress. Where
an entity in the Service-to-
Other orientation is repeatedly choosing to include others as the focus of their concern, the Service-to-Self entity has never left their original focus - the self. Thus, the evolution, during spiritual growth, into two paths is natural, a factor of uneven growth rates, and the resulting separation of the orientations during early densities is simply a practical step taken to facilitate learning. A Service-to-Self entity cannot be forced to develop concern for others, nor can this
concern be worn like a social facade in the densities above 3rd Density, as a fake or a sham. Where entities are given
free will, as all are within God's Universe, such a choice as the Service-to-Self orientation is and will continue to be a reality.
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ZetaTalk: Heaven and Hell
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ZetaTalk: Heaven and Hell
Note: written by Jul 15, 1995
Heaven and Hell are described in the Bible and the Koran as places commensurate with the rewards deserved by those
who have functioned in the Service-to-Others or Service-to-Self orientation - in the minds of the authors of these
books, who in the main were in the Service-to-Others when they authored the books. For primitive peoples, who relied
upon fire for cooking and warmth, catching on fire was a known dilemma, and the pain from such an accident not
unknown. Thus, as one of the most excruciating pains, and one slow to heal and suffering the injured much pain
during the healing process, eternal fire was the worst of the worst.
Similarly, the higher one went, physically speaking, the better life got. Specifically we are describing living on hill tops versus valleys, and having the higher campground versus one downhill. As the saying goes, shit flows downhill.
Valleys have dampness and humidity, lizards and snakes and insects galore. Hilltops have breezes and vistas. Better
yet is what the birds enjoy, high in the skies. Nothing can touch them, and as good as the hilltops are, the skies must be better! Thus, heaven is viewed as up in the skies, and the higher the better.